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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-170947</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This podcast is really interesting. I loved the different analyzations of the abbreviations and &quot;text talk&quot; because, as a teenager, I am very famililar with the texting language. I learned some new abbreviations that I found quite funny. A really great thing to listen to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This podcast is really interesting. I loved the different analyzations of the abbreviations and &#8220;text talk&#8221; because, as a teenager, I am very famililar with the texting language. I learned some new abbreviations that I found quite funny. A really great thing to listen to!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138464</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Deb. I think most people don&#039;t know what that one means, but we all just go ahead and use it anyway.

For those not in the know, it stands for the French words &quot;répondez s&#039;il vous plaît,&quot; which literally mean &quot;respond, if you please.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Deb. I think most people don&#8217;t know what that one means, but we all just go ahead and use it anyway.</p>
<p>For those not in the know, it stands for the French words &#8220;répondez s&#8217;il vous plaît,&#8221; which literally mean &#8220;respond, if you please.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Bklyndeb</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138463</link>
		<dc:creator>Bklyndeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was nice hearing Howard Chang&#039;s sexy voice again! :)

RSVP is an abbreviation that I didn&#039;t understand for a very long time. But then, I don&#039;t speak/understand French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was nice hearing Howard Chang&#8217;s sexy voice again! <img src='http://thewordnerds.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>RSVP is an abbreviation that I didn&#8217;t understand for a very long time. But then, I don&#8217;t speak/understand French.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Headbloom</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138432</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Headbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed, another possibility is that WTF has four syllables: dub-ya-tee-eff.  FWIW, when I see &quot;WTF,&quot; I think of it as three words representing a strongly worded interjection.  (But then, I&#039;m over 50.)  I&#039;ll ask my Gen-Y (Gen-X-cuspy) kiddos for their opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed, another possibility is that WTF has four syllables: dub-ya-tee-eff.  FWIW, when I see &#8220;WTF,&#8221; I think of it as three words representing a strongly worded interjection.  (But then, I&#8217;m over 50.)  I&#8217;ll ask my Gen-Y (Gen-X-cuspy) kiddos for their opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138431</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ed. Here&#039;s my analysis of my current use of (or thinking about) these abbrevs.:

LOL: I think of it as three letters, &quot;ell-oh-ell.&quot; I didn&#039;t think of it this way two years ago.

ASAP: I&#039;ve been thinking of this as letters (not an acronym) for 25-30 years, I imagine.

OTOH: I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m still thinking of this one as words: &quot;on the other hand.&quot;

OMG: I&#039;ve just started thinking of this amusing abbreviation as letters within the past 12 months or so. &quot;O. M. G.&quot; (With full stops after every letter, for emphasis.)

WTF: If I were writing haikus about a baseball team or something like that, I think it would be most amusing to spell out the letters syllabically, thus: &quot;double-you-tee-eff.&quot; I think it&#039;s strong enough and ubiquitous enough that at least I would get the joke if you did that. Particularly if you followed it with a question mark: 

&quot;Double-you-tee-eff?!?&quot;

YMMV. (Your mileage may vary.) Others may feel free to chime in, particularly about &quot;WTF.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ed. Here&#8217;s my analysis of my current use of (or thinking about) these abbrevs.:</p>
<p>LOL: I think of it as three letters, &#8220;ell-oh-ell.&#8221; I didn&#8217;t think of it this way two years ago.</p>
<p>ASAP: I&#8217;ve been thinking of this as letters (not an acronym) for 25-30 years, I imagine.</p>
<p>OTOH: I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;m still thinking of this one as words: &#8220;on the other hand.&#8221;</p>
<p>OMG: I&#8217;ve just started thinking of this amusing abbreviation as letters within the past 12 months or so. &#8220;O. M. G.&#8221; (With full stops after every letter, for emphasis.)</p>
<p>WTF: If I were writing haikus about a baseball team or something like that, I think it would be most amusing to spell out the letters syllabically, thus: &#8220;double-you-tee-eff.&#8221; I think it&#8217;s strong enough and ubiquitous enough that at least I would get the joke if you did that. Particularly if you followed it with a question mark: </p>
<p>&#8220;Double-you-tee-eff?!?&#8221;</p>
<p>YMMV. (Your mileage may vary.) Others may feel free to chime in, particularly about &#8220;WTF.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Nickow</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138428</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Nickow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a bit of an esoteric issue concerning WTF and other of these text and email abbreviations. 

As you might recall (probably not, I mentioned it here only once and I&#039;m not exactly a frequent contributor) I have a couple of haiku blogs, where counting syllables is obviously very important.

I wanted to use &quot;WTF&quot; to express my anger on the Cubs blog (www.thecubsinhaiku.com) after a particularly annoying loss.  I wasn&#039;t sure whether it should be counted as 3 syllables or 5 syllables.

My daughters were certain that it was 5 syllables, and thought it was silly that I would have considered it to be only 3.

Here&#039;s the thing ... when I see &quot;WTF&quot; or other such abbreviations I think of the actual words. It seems that it&#039;s sort of like learning a foreign language.  To middle-aged parents, these shortcuts are new words.  So, just as I think &quot;water&quot; when I hear or read &quot;agua&quot;, I think &quot;Oh my G-d&quot; when I see OMG.

My kids, and their contemporaries, OTOH (did you read &quot;OTOH&quot; or &quot;on the other hand&quot;? ... see what I mean?) are more comfortable with the abbreviations as words.  So, when some of our younger office staff started putting up &quot;Happy Birthday&quot; signs we got stuff like &quot;OMG ... Lori is 40 Years Old ... LOL!&quot;.  None of the over 40 folks would have even THOUGHT do make a sign like that.

Conversely, there are &quot;old&quot; abbreviations that we old guys use similarly to how the younguns use the texting shortcuts.  One example ... do you say &quot;ASAP&quot; or &quot;As Soon As Possible&quot;?

Those abbreviations and acronyms are part of our &quot;native&quot; language.  The internet shortcuts are not.

TTFN

Ed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a bit of an esoteric issue concerning WTF and other of these text and email abbreviations. </p>
<p>As you might recall (probably not, I mentioned it here only once and I&#8217;m not exactly a frequent contributor) I have a couple of haiku blogs, where counting syllables is obviously very important.</p>
<p>I wanted to use &#8220;WTF&#8221; to express my anger on the Cubs blog (www.thecubsinhaiku.com) after a particularly annoying loss.  I wasn&#8217;t sure whether it should be counted as 3 syllables or 5 syllables.</p>
<p>My daughters were certain that it was 5 syllables, and thought it was silly that I would have considered it to be only 3.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing &#8230; when I see &#8220;WTF&#8221; or other such abbreviations I think of the actual words. It seems that it&#8217;s sort of like learning a foreign language.  To middle-aged parents, these shortcuts are new words.  So, just as I think &#8220;water&#8221; when I hear or read &#8220;agua&#8221;, I think &#8220;Oh my G-d&#8221; when I see OMG.</p>
<p>My kids, and their contemporaries, OTOH (did you read &#8220;OTOH&#8221; or &#8220;on the other hand&#8221;? &#8230; see what I mean?) are more comfortable with the abbreviations as words.  So, when some of our younger office staff started putting up &#8220;Happy Birthday&#8221; signs we got stuff like &#8220;OMG &#8230; Lori is 40 Years Old &#8230; LOL!&#8221;.  None of the over 40 folks would have even THOUGHT do make a sign like that.</p>
<p>Conversely, there are &#8220;old&#8221; abbreviations that we old guys use similarly to how the younguns use the texting shortcuts.  One example &#8230; do you say &#8220;ASAP&#8221; or &#8220;As Soon As Possible&#8221;?</p>
<p>Those abbreviations and acronyms are part of our &#8220;native&#8221; language.  The internet shortcuts are not.</p>
<p>TTFN</p>
<p>Ed</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Headbloom</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-138211</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Headbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talked a little about personalized license plates.  (Do people still call them &quot;vanity plates&quot;?)  My daughter lives in LA and sees thousands of cars go by every day.  We&#039;ve been sharing (via text-messaging) some of the more clever ones we&#039;ve seen.  Here are a few.

on a minivan:  US2BKUL	

on a white Ford Bronco: NOT OJS

on a BMW:  BEZAHLT

Miata convertible/gray-haired guy:   COOLOPA

Kings hockey player?	ISK84LA

On a Lexus S.U.V.:  ERNDIT

No special vehicle/driver:
	XNUYRKR
	LTMETCK	
	IPB4IGO	
	HIHWRU
	CHVLREE
	HVNKNWS
	UN4GTBL
	IMU4IK	
	PBNJS
	IRPRFKT	
	IINUTHAT
	REELYL8	
	10 ACT	
	WSNTEZ	
	SLVPBMS	

Keep providing fun topics!
Alan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talked a little about personalized license plates.  (Do people still call them &#8220;vanity plates&#8221;?)  My daughter lives in LA and sees thousands of cars go by every day.  We&#8217;ve been sharing (via text-messaging) some of the more clever ones we&#8217;ve seen.  Here are a few.</p>
<p>on a minivan:  US2BKUL	</p>
<p>on a white Ford Bronco: NOT OJS</p>
<p>on a BMW:  BEZAHLT</p>
<p>Miata convertible/gray-haired guy:   COOLOPA</p>
<p>Kings hockey player?	ISK84LA</p>
<p>On a Lexus S.U.V.:  ERNDIT</p>
<p>No special vehicle/driver:<br />
	XNUYRKR<br />
	LTMETCK<br />
	IPB4IGO<br />
	HIHWRU<br />
	CHVLREE<br />
	HVNKNWS<br />
	UN4GTBL<br />
	IMU4IK<br />
	PBNJS<br />
	IRPRFKT<br />
	IINUTHAT<br />
	REELYL8<br />
	10 ACT<br />
	WSNTEZ<br />
	SLVPBMS	</p>
<p>Keep providing fun topics!<br />
Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Hans</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-137950</link>
		<dc:creator>Hans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was a great show, guys! Howard C, it is good to have you back.

i work in IT, and my job is to answer Helpdesk calls. once the call is over and the ticket is closed, we have a few abbreviations of our own that we use to classify the type of issue. i wanted to share them.

RTFM - Read the F&#039;ing Manual, something we wish we could tell all users

ID10T - not really an abbreviation, but what does it spell if you think of the 1 and the 0 and letters I and O?

and the classic...

PEBKAC - Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, a fancier, more sarcastic way of indicating an operator error

i&#039;ve been listening for over a year now and love it, so please keep up the good work. as a matter of fact, listening to you guys has partly influenced &amp; assisted my recent desire to become a teacher.

thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this was a great show, guys! Howard C, it is good to have you back.</p>
<p>i work in IT, and my job is to answer Helpdesk calls. once the call is over and the ticket is closed, we have a few abbreviations of our own that we use to classify the type of issue. i wanted to share them.</p>
<p>RTFM &#8211; Read the F&#8217;ing Manual, something we wish we could tell all users</p>
<p>ID10T &#8211; not really an abbreviation, but what does it spell if you think of the 1 and the 0 and letters I and O?</p>
<p>and the classic&#8230;</p>
<p>PEBKAC &#8211; Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, a fancier, more sarcastic way of indicating an operator error</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve been listening for over a year now and love it, so please keep up the good work. as a matter of fact, listening to you guys has partly influenced &amp; assisted my recent desire to become a teacher.</p>
<p>thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 05:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rob: Uh, yeah, you&#039;re right! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rob: Uh, yeah, you&#8217;re right! <img src='http://thewordnerds.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob Frey</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-136407</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How could someone be on a forum using the abbreviation DVD and not acknoledge that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could someone be on a forum using the abbreviation DVD and not acknoledge that?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2009/01/10/abbrevs-txt-113/comment-page-1/#comment-134656</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good listen as usual. On the origins of TTFN (Ta ta for now). It goes back to the 1940s and the BBC radio show ITMA(It&#039;s That Man Again), pronounced IT-MAR.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good listen as usual. On the origins of TTFN (Ta ta for now). It goes back to the 1940s and the BBC radio show ITMA(It&#8217;s That Man Again), pronounced IT-MAR.</p>
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