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	<title>Comments on: Morphing, Changing, and Dying Words (111)</title>
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		<title>By: John M. Kirton II</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-178583</link>
		<dc:creator>John M. Kirton II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do find myself a little resistant to using new words, especially when there is a word that already exists which could instead be used. Example: When using &quot;friend&quot; as a verb, why not instead use the already existent &quot;befriend&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do find myself a little resistant to using new words, especially when there is a word that already exists which could instead be used. Example: When using &#8220;friend&#8221; as a verb, why not instead use the already existent &#8220;befriend&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Headbloom</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-131552</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Headbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, I think this is an example of a word which has become less common in speech but has clearly NOT died out.  It&#039;s a word I (50+) use to sound quaint or ironic, but my father (80+) uses it all the time.  I&#039;m guessing that if popular (children&#039;s) literature picks it up, it could experience a revival.  Plus, it&#039;s just so fun to say!  One of those delicious-in-your-mouth-and-ears sounds, like kangaroo or flabbergast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, I think this is an example of a word which has become less common in speech but has clearly NOT died out.  It&#8217;s a word I (50+) use to sound quaint or ironic, but my father (80+) uses it all the time.  I&#8217;m guessing that if popular (children&#8217;s) literature picks it up, it could experience a revival.  Plus, it&#8217;s just so fun to say!  One of those delicious-in-your-mouth-and-ears sounds, like kangaroo or flabbergast.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-131407</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 02:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mentioned &quot;skedaddle&quot; in episode 111. It&#039;s a wonderful word, and in fact used in a book that&#039;s a favourite of mine &quot;Hairy Maclary and Zachary Quack&quot;, by Lynley Dodd. I&#039;ve lost count of the number of times I&#039;ve read this to my children. Beautifully written with a fantastic rhythm, as all her books are. Thanks for the podcast. It is nice to see that there are still people around who care about language! Regards, Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mentioned &#8220;skedaddle&#8221; in episode 111. It&#8217;s a wonderful word, and in fact used in a book that&#8217;s a favourite of mine &#8220;Hairy Maclary and Zachary Quack&#8221;, by Lynley Dodd. I&#8217;ve lost count of the number of times I&#8217;ve read this to my children. Beautifully written with a fantastic rhythm, as all her books are. Thanks for the podcast. It is nice to see that there are still people around who care about language! Regards, Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Headbloom</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-130236</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Headbloom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this week&#039;s Wall Street Journal:

If you&#039;re looking for a new career, consider becoming a court reporter. Job opportunities are plentiful but first you need to learn how to quickly take shorthand using a machine called a stenograph.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123058800978940533.html?mod=djemPJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this week&#8217;s Wall Street Journal:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for a new career, consider becoming a court reporter. Job opportunities are plentiful but first you need to learn how to quickly take shorthand using a machine called a stenograph.</p>
<p><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123058800978940533.html?mod=djemPJ" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123058800978940533.html?mod=djemPJ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-127275</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy See? You have interesting data!
I don&#039;t mean it as a burden but this is the kind of data people are interested in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy See? You have interesting data!<br />
I don&#8217;t mean it as a burden but this is the kind of data people are interested in.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gosh Alexandre that sounds like a project!  It is fun to go check out urbandictionary.com to get the latest slang.  There you will find words my kids have not heard about yet - we are not cutting edge out here on the prairie.

The problem is that so much slang is so intertwined with current national or even local events that some of it is difficult for even native speakers to keep up with.  I find, however, that our exchange students sure know and can use a lot of slang by the time they leave us in the spring.  One of our German Exchange students came back for a visit after being back home for a year and unless you listened carefully you would never think that he was not a native midwestern speaker of English - slang, coloquialisms and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Alexandre that sounds like a project!  It is fun to go check out urbandictionary.com to get the latest slang.  There you will find words my kids have not heard about yet &#8211; we are not cutting edge out here on the prairie.</p>
<p>The problem is that so much slang is so intertwined with current national or even local events that some of it is difficult for even native speakers to keep up with.  I find, however, that our exchange students sure know and can use a lot of slang by the time they leave us in the spring.  One of our German Exchange students came back for a visit after being back home for a year and unless you listened carefully you would never think that he was not a native midwestern speaker of English &#8211; slang, coloquialisms and all.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:32:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kathy
It&#039;d be interesting to hear more about your quiz results. Maybe you could write this up into an academic paper?
In sociolinguistics, a lot has been said about teenage speech among North American English-speakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kathy<br />
It&#8217;d be interesting to hear more about your quiz results. Maybe you could write this up into an academic paper?<br />
In sociolinguistics, a lot has been said about teenage speech among North American English-speakers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am not quite old enough for the mimeograph but the beginning of my teaching career was filled with the smell of the spirit mastered papers - just a little damp too if you made them at the last minute.

I was thinking of morphing words in the context of high school.  One day there was a list of high school slang terms in our local newspaper.  I gave the quiz to 2-3 periods worth of students.  The words and definitions came from a high school in Kentucky and I am in the Great Plains.  Most of the words had the same or similar meanings at my high school but one none of my kids had heard of and a couple others they used but had a different definition for than the correct one on the quiz.  I found it interesting that in this day of instant communication there are still regional differences in the slang the high school crowd uses.

My students are very kind to me and will give me a definition of a slang word if I ask - I think they feel a little sorry for my unhipness.  I do have to say that since one of the subjects I teach is Anatomy I am sometimes subjected to more slang than I would like!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am not quite old enough for the mimeograph but the beginning of my teaching career was filled with the smell of the spirit mastered papers &#8211; just a little damp too if you made them at the last minute.</p>
<p>I was thinking of morphing words in the context of high school.  One day there was a list of high school slang terms in our local newspaper.  I gave the quiz to 2-3 periods worth of students.  The words and definitions came from a high school in Kentucky and I am in the Great Plains.  Most of the words had the same or similar meanings at my high school but one none of my kids had heard of and a couple others they used but had a different definition for than the correct one on the quiz.  I found it interesting that in this day of instant communication there are still regional differences in the slang the high school crowd uses.</p>
<p>My students are very kind to me and will give me a definition of a slang word if I ask &#8211; I think they feel a little sorry for my unhipness.  I do have to say that since one of the subjects I teach is Anatomy I am sometimes subjected to more slang than I would like!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Beth, but if one is REALLY old, one will remember the distinction between a mimeograph machine (which pushed black ink through thin places in a waxy stencil to make the image) and a spirit master (which used some kind of volatile liquid-to-gas mixture to make purple copies from a positive master).

The ones that had that smell, the purple ones, were spirit masters (sometimes called &quot;Ditto&quot; machines). The inky ones were mimeographs. The spirit master machines were popular because they were not messy. Mimeographs were always quite messy. Also, spirit master machines were much easier to use well. No ink distribution involved.

As a matter of fact, in my school district, we use a modern-day mimegraph-type machine, called a Risograph, to make large runs when the xerographic photocopier is out of whack or in use. The Riso makes that thin stencil automatically, and then pushes black ink through it onto the paper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Beth, but if one is REALLY old, one will remember the distinction between a mimeograph machine (which pushed black ink through thin places in a waxy stencil to make the image) and a spirit master (which used some kind of volatile liquid-to-gas mixture to make purple copies from a positive master).</p>
<p>The ones that had that smell, the purple ones, were spirit masters (sometimes called &#8220;Ditto&#8221; machines). The inky ones were mimeographs. The spirit master machines were popular because they were not messy. Mimeographs were always quite messy. Also, spirit master machines were much easier to use well. No ink distribution involved.</p>
<p>As a matter of fact, in my school district, we use a modern-day mimegraph-type machine, called a Risograph, to make large runs when the xerographic photocopier is out of whack or in use. The Riso makes that thin stencil automatically, and then pushes black ink through it onto the paper.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the mimeograph machine!  I am 34 years old and I remember helping my teachers &quot;crank out&quot; copy after copy.  In fact, although we don&#039;t mimeograph papers anymore we can still &quot;crank out&quot; copies, a work project, or reports.  I am teacher now myself and I miss those purple copies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the mimeograph machine!  I am 34 years old and I remember helping my teachers &#8220;crank out&#8221; copy after copy.  In fact, although we don&#8217;t mimeograph papers anymore we can still &#8220;crank out&#8221; copies, a work project, or reports.  I am teacher now myself and I miss those purple copies!</p>
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		<title>By: Volker</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-123433</link>
		<dc:creator>Volker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hallo Dave and Barbara!

This was (once again) a very interesting and enjoyable episode. I especially like the guessing game, that is very funny idea for a nerd-game.

Although I&#039;m under 40, I knew stenography. I friend of mine even had to learn it when she trained for her job in the early 90s!

Have a nice holiday season!
Volker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hallo Dave and Barbara!</p>
<p>This was (once again) a very interesting and enjoyable episode. I especially like the guessing game, that is very funny idea for a nerd-game.</p>
<p>Although I&#8217;m under 40, I knew stenography. I friend of mine even had to learn it when she trained for her job in the early 90s!</p>
<p>Have a nice holiday season!<br />
Volker</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandre</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-123110</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 36yo and, like others, I did know about stenography. In fact, the topic came up on a few occasions in searches for diverse text entry methods on electronic devices. Personally, I get the impression that a stenography-based input system could be a convenient alternative to on-screen keyboards (e.g. iPhone) and Graffiti (on PalmOS devices).

Interesting to notice that it&#039;s the second time Barbara mentions something made by an anthropologist. Anthro FTW!

As for semantic shift based on &quot;misuse,&quot; it would probably cover too much ground. Language Log had some interesting things about this kind of semantic shift, just a couple of months ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 36yo and, like others, I did know about stenography. In fact, the topic came up on a few occasions in searches for diverse text entry methods on electronic devices. Personally, I get the impression that a stenography-based input system could be a convenient alternative to on-screen keyboards (e.g. iPhone) and Graffiti (on PalmOS devices).</p>
<p>Interesting to notice that it&#8217;s the second time Barbara mentions something made by an anthropologist. Anthro FTW!</p>
<p>As for semantic shift based on &#8220;misuse,&#8221; it would probably cover too much ground. Language Log had some interesting things about this kind of semantic shift, just a couple of months ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
		<link>http://thewordnerds.org/2008/12/14/morphing-changing-and-dying-words-111/comment-page-1/#comment-123088</link>
		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 25, and fully aware of stenography.. but I&#039;ve always been a bit &#039;unlike&#039; others of my age.  In fact, I remember a Saturday morning cartoon called &quot;Science Court&quot; with a character named &quot;Stenographer Fred&quot;.  Who says kids don&#039;t learn from TV?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 25, and fully aware of stenography.. but I&#8217;ve always been a bit &#8216;unlike&#8217; others of my age.  In fact, I remember a Saturday morning cartoon called &#8220;Science Court&#8221; with a character named &#8220;Stenographer Fred&#8221;.  Who says kids don&#8217;t learn from TV?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 05:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great show... but I had to share that when I saw the title appear, I was expecting something totally different.

What I thought of was words that have changed their meanings because of continual misuse. For example, the word &quot;notoriety&quot; is often used when &quot;fame&quot; is meant. So often, that I suspect it won&#039;t be many years before it&#039;s acceptable usage. Similarly with the word &quot;irregardless,&quot; which of course is not a word, but is used so often it will likely soon become one.

I wonder how long it will take before such phrases as, &quot;Me and her is going to the library&quot; (wrong on SO many levels) become acceptable usage as well, since I hear them on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great show&#8230; but I had to share that when I saw the title appear, I was expecting something totally different.</p>
<p>What I thought of was words that have changed their meanings because of continual misuse. For example, the word &#8220;notoriety&#8221; is often used when &#8220;fame&#8221; is meant. So often, that I suspect it won&#8217;t be many years before it&#8217;s acceptable usage. Similarly with the word &#8220;irregardless,&#8221; which of course is not a word, but is used so often it will likely soon become one.</p>
<p>I wonder how long it will take before such phrases as, &#8220;Me and her is going to the library&#8221; (wrong on SO many levels) become acceptable usage as well, since I hear them on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 02:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am 20% younger than 40 and i do know what stenography is though i never really saw someone use it. and i dont mistake it for steganography

schöne Grüße from germany ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am 20% younger than 40 and i do know what stenography is though i never really saw someone use it. and i dont mistake it for steganography</p>
<p>schöne Grüße from germany <img src='http://thewordnerds.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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